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Today most of Greenland is a white land of permafrost put simply a white desert therefore how can the climate be warmer now as we know the Vikings named the land greenland because it was green and they could grow wine and food there?
Yet again the famous hockey stick chart link below doesn't make any sense??
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
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As this was long before we had any factories or cars how did this massive period of warming start? According to global warming theory CO2 drives temperatures therefore where did the CO2 come from to enable the Vikings to grow wine in Greenland 1000 years ago as we cant grow wine there today as their is too much snow and ice?
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If it wasn't warmer during the MWP, how can you explain the 'multifarious evidence from around the world' that Lamb wrote about and that has surfaced since?
If the MWP didn't happen or was a 'regional anomaly' ---
Why were tree lines higher in mountain ranges from the Sierra Nevadas to the Alps?
Why was the US Southwest stricken with drought similar to what is predicted to occur over the next 100 years?
How did crop yields and grazing plants (grasses) grow in increased abundance inside the Arctic Circle?
How did the Vikings farm Iceland and parts of Greenland?
How did the Brits grow the wine grapes grown in Provence today?
How did the Germans grow fig and olive trees?
Why did North Atlantic shipping, despite better ships, decline in the 1200s and 1300s, and why did the people at the time cite dramatic increases in drift ice?
Or if you concede that these things happened because it was warmer, is the Northern Hemisphere what you mean by a regional anomaly?
OK I'm not saying that the present warming isn't man-made or partly man-made.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
I'm saying that the people trying to sell the notion that it is seem uniformly committed to writing the MWP out of the history books based on the printouts of proxy models using narrow sets of proxy data (the more data you plug in, the more the climate history shows the original two camel humps rather than the hocky stick). But even before we get into the validity of the proxy models, I don't understand how, based soley on them, you can just "decide" to dismiss out of hand as "anecdotal" the physical evidence - not when the anecdotes are from nearly every corner of the world from which there is evidence!
I don't see how you do this without directly addressing the evidence of the warmer period - how did these things happen, what's the reason if it isn't a warmer climate, and why did so many contemporaneours observers over three centuries apparently lie about it?
-----crickets chirping-----
I want an explanation - not a quote that it's "anecdotal evidence" - - - how did these things happen if not for warming?
Seriously, this is like someone saying Washington didn't in fact cross the Delaware without explaining how he ended up on the other side.
Keith, again, the Sierra Nevadas are NOT IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
Dana no, it doesn't answer them - it doesn't say these events didn't happen, it just whitewashes the whole thing, dismisses as 'anecdotal evidence' the physical evidence from around the world.
Again, the Sierra Nevadas are a long ways away from the North Atlantic - they are in no way related. Yet tree lines were 300 feet higher in both the Sierra Nevadas and the Alps.
Why?
Let's say it together - because it was warmer.
Keith no, the evidence from proxy data show that it wasn't globally simultaneous in terms of peak years - JUST LIKE TODAY - which is the genesis of my other question - - if the lack of uniformity today doesn't mean that we don't have global warming today, then the lack of uniformity 1000 years ago in the same exact respect doesn't mean the MWP wasn't "a truly global event." It's based on "anecdotal evidence" - but the anecdotes are backed with physical evidence and are from virtually every corner of civilization. They all point to the same thing, contemporaneous observers pointed to that same thing, and you're trying to say that thing didn't happen without providing any evidence of how the events happened or why so many people at the time would lie about it.
It's not just that they grew grapes in England near rivers that 500 years later would freeze in winter - it's that the people growing the grapes wrote "we can grow grapes now because it's warmer."
Why would they lie?
OK Crabby let me add one piece of info that will render your complaint moot:
during the MWP, and for that matter the Holocene Maximum, atmospheric CO2 levels were lower than today.
OK - a straw man no more.
We might be causing or exacerbating the present warming by virtue of CO2 emissions but the simple fact that they're happening both at the same time doesn't allow you to logically infer causation.
OK no, Bob, a graph is very pretty does not answer the question. I asked you not to show a graph that says it didn't happen, but to explain how the evidence that it did happen exists - if it wasn't warmer then why were tree lines higher? How'd the Vikings farm Greenland? Etc.....
Besides, the graph you present isn't what it purports to be. It's based on proxy models through 1900 and then spliced with measured temps. The proxy models don't pick up the warming past 1990...... Which means that their failure to pick up the warming pre1300 doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Keith the highs NOW aren't simultaneous - that's my point, if record cold weather in England last week is, in light of the fact that on the whole it's warmer everywhere, not relevant to the question of whether this is a global event, then a cool period in one patch of the Pacific, and the fact that the peak warmth appears to have hit the Americas and Europe about 50 years before it hit Asia doesn't mean that the MWP wasn't a global event either.
You can't have it both ways.
Bob I've reviewed gristmill, their explanation of British vineyards in the 11th century is that now, after 1000 years of breeding for cold-hardiness and improvements to growing techniques for cold climates, such as thermal blankets for the root systems in winter, they grow cold-hardy grapes in the same regions of England...
That's pathetic.
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For example the skeptics know that it is a fact that there was much more beneficial global warming 1000 years ago as the Vikings grew wine in Greenland. We also know that global warming and cooling since the mini ice age has almost exactly followed solar output. We also know that the planet has not warmed anything like what the Thermaphobes promised between 2000-2010 and that we have had record breaking cold winters all over the world for the last three years. For example it was the 2nd coldest December in central England since 1659 or since the mini ice age!
To their defence we understand that there is a very clever marketing campaign behind global warming and that the more of a “tree hugger” you are (No disrespect to treehuggers) the more likely you will fall for the sham as it hits your religious buttons about “saving the world” from the so called dirty “greedy humans!” However would these people rather be fooled by a fraud to sell us and them ridiculously expensive green technology that will cripple their/our economies? Therefore most folk are perhaps unwittingly promoting global warming as they are being manipulated by Al Gore and the likes sales and marketing departments to sell the green technology, carbon credits and pay more tax.
Bacheaus: Just for you here there is a link below that shows how solar output almost matches up exactly with global warming and cooling since the mini ice age... Also please tell me which one of your so called scientists has shown exactly how solar radiation including CME's interact with our atmosphere and why our atmosphere thins during solar minimums and how this relates to the mini ice age as physically shown by the data... You can try to rewrite the historical record however no matter how much you try you cannot hide the facts!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum
I'm starting to feel sorry for you guys as the Armageddon is just not happening... is it?????
You keep going on about scientific literature.... THERE IS NONE!!!!!
It is all theories and studies linked to theories and studies linked to studies
Let me repeat "THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE!!!!!"
Even the Royal Society say that warming could be anything from a few tenths of a degrees Celsius to 7.1C and the climate forcing range is everything from natural as seen for 300years to Armageddon... Some of you are having a joke as you laugh into your pay packet!!!
Baccheus: I must admit to enjoying our discussions :) Perhaps you should have a look at MP's question and come back to reality as the evidence and consensus for the catastrophic global warming you keep harping on about is severely lacking. As a matter of fact in that question I have highlighted a link that has 500 sceptical papers that speak of scientific heresy against your global warming god!!!!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aqu4EaXyOZwOmEOaQg_6TGn_5nNG;_ylv=3?qid=20110119132842AA5z9z0
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Helmets and armor we wore
We ate much fish too
Water, Beer, and Wine we drank.
Iceland, and Greenland
As well as North America
The people became to know more about us
When we discovered it all.
Do you know who we are?
Were the Vikings
That lived in the 8th to 11th century
I bet you found that on the internet
We did not have back then,
Instead we wrote letters
That would take days to send
When they finally got them
We did our war together
We somtimes won,
We sometimes failed,
But we all sticked together.
It is my time to go now
For there is another war
So goodbye and fairwell
To all to all that said hi
So wish us good luck
Before we go truck
Thanks!
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How did Lake Naivasha in Kenya dry up? How did it stay dry for 200 years? Why did it recover - and why hasn't it dried up again despite higher water usage, if it's hotter now than it was in the 1100s? Why were the droughts so bad in the American Southwest that it devastated the Anasazi civilization? How did they maintain dairy farms on Greenland? How did England - hundreds of years before mankind had developed cold-hardy varieties of grapes - become wine country - and then cease to be wine country? Why were tree lines higher in the Sierra Nevadas? Why are retreating glaciers in the Alps revealing archaeological finds from prior warm periods?
Conversely, if the MWP was "a regional event" then where is the evidence that it was markedly colder everywhere else?
Well no, actually all of these events occurred from the 11th through 13th centuries.
And isn't the global climate the sum of the regional climates?
I wonder why tree rings are evidence of anything other than the conditions near the tree itself - and why the rings on one tree that grows now where it grew then are afforded greater value than the fact that trees grew then where they can't grow now. Also since we now know that Bristlecone pine tree rings don't widen with temperature beyond a certain point, I wonder why we give any credence to the notion that because the rings didn't get wider during the MWP, it wasn't warmer.
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I'm going to be studying abroad next fall, and I can't make up my mind of whether I want to go to Copenhagen, Denmark or Rome, Italy.
Copenhagen: through Danish Institute for Study Abroad. Has a great health care program; can travel through integrated study tours to Germany & Poland or Sweden & Estonia for 2 weeks; can take courses that have study tours to Rome, Paris, Turkey, Russia, or Greenland for a week. A wide range of classes to choose from (almost 200).
Rome: through IES; beautiful scenery; interesting courses (narrow choices, however); amazing food, wine, language, and people; study art and history in the Eternal City...It's always been my dream to travel and experience the culture of Italy.
I have to work so hard in college (pre-med) that I want my study abroad experience to be fun and memorable. I want to live life to the fullest while abroad, and Rome seems like the perfect place to be...but DIS offers such great opportunities!
What should I do? I go back and forth every other trying to figure out where I'd like to go! Help please!
I am currently a sophomore at a liberal arts college. I have a full scholarship, so the only I will be paying for while studying abroad is room & board, and other costs such as souvenirs, food, traveling, etc.
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